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# - 04/20/ PMradiator support bushings?  
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ok i took them out awhile ago when the clip was off the car, now i need to re instal them but im not quite sure which direction they bolt in. does anyone have pictures of how they sit?
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# - 04/21/ AMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: monteSS4mike]  
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the bushing that looks like a bowl with a cylinder in it sits on the frame and the core support sits on top of it, the smaller caps that look like smaller rubber bowls with a hole in the middle goes on top inside the rad support. The bolts typically go in from the bottom and use a star key looking thing to hold the bolt from falling thru(they use these same things to hold the rear drums on at the factory)

You may have thick washer shims as well to put in, these help with aligning the fender to the door(you should always align the door to the body, then the fender to the door & body)



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# - 12/14/ PMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: Aeroaddict]  
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aeroaddict could you send me pictures also thanks

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# - 12/15/ PMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: juangomez22]  
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Hey Greg, can you either post the pics or send me a copy as well?



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# - 01/04/ AMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: juangomez22]  
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anyone know where you can get replacement bushings? mine are shot.



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# - 01/04/ PMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: Morgen D]  
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I think you can still get them from GM.



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# - 01/04/ PMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: go3and8]  
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The bushing show on the picture part number is , the other bushing on top is I just got mime from GM, and try to install this weekend.


# - 01/06/ PMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: shuend]  
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i ordered mine from gm and they keep sending the wrong ones to the dealer but i got some and the #5 is no longer available from dealer. i had to improvise on some and had to use alternataive numbers etc. i was going to do a post on the oem bushings but i dont have all of them in yet.


# - 01/06/ PMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: shuend]  
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The bushing show on the picture part number is , the other bushing on top is I just got mime from GM, and try to install this weekend.


shuend in my picture for the bottom core support bushing is
that is the gm part # for the bottom the top was yellow color but doesnt seem to be available eiather i tried and its no longer able to be ordered unless my counter guy was ignorant and didnt want to mess with it.

# - 01/07/ AMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: juangomez22]  
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juangomez22, I got the part numbers form the GM parts catalog, and I ordered from my local GM dealer. I just installed it yesterday. It is the right parts for the radiator support, top and bottom.


# - 01/07/ AMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: shuend]  
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juangomez22, btw, is your picture up side down. b/c when I remove the old bushing form my car yesterday. Those two big washer are seat under the bushing.


# - 01/08/ AMRe: radiator support bushings? [Re: shuend]  
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hmm thats weired on the bushing numbers what year is your car?
i dont know but im going to install the same part #s that came off of the car. i think my picture is upside down i only did it because of the part number i will have to check on the car. the bushings that i have from the other ss that is apart right now matches the part #s on the core support bushings etc. but both of mine are 87s dont know if the year will make a diffrence at all?



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# - 01/17/ AMRadiator Support Bushing Mistake  
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Well, I attempted to replace the radiator support bushings tonight. After some aggressive removal techniques, I was able to get the old bushings out. As I was putting the new ones in, I found an old washer/spacer that I didn't see during removal. I thought that each bolt had a washer under the head up inside the frame rail and each bushing had one spacer under the steel portion between it and the frame. However, I found one extra washer on the floor near the driver's side of the car. I am not sure if that side had two or not. What are the shims attempting to align? Are they trying to square up the radiator support or attempting to smooth the transition between the door and fender? If I knew what they were for, perhaps I can figure out where to put them.


# - 01/17/ AMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: cwest01]  
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Well when I redid my core support bushings I has one washer under the frame and 3 on top look around see if you can find others, you are syposed to reuse them. Help line up the hood fenders everything on the front end I forgot one on each side and my fender gap is off.

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# - 01/17/ AMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: monte]  
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i bought mine new from gm



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# - 01/17/ AMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: tonys57chevy]  
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When you bought the new bushings from GM, how many shims did it come with or how many did you use?


# - 01/17/ PMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: cwest01]  
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Hi Cwest,

Two thoughts:

1.) When the car was built, the overwhelming odds are that the bushings and washers used between the body and frame had left/right symmetry. Therefore, if you know the total number of washers used on the front two bushings, and divide this number by two (the quotient must be an integer,) then this is the number of washers to be used per side.

2.) The washers are what - in the very general vicinity of " thick? The frame and body are so compliant forward of the firewall, that I doubt whether it would make any significant difference to be "off" by a washer or two at the front bushing.

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# - 01/17/ PMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: MAP]  
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Hi Cwest,

Two thoughts
2.) The washers are what - in the very general vicinity of " thick? The frame and body are so compliant forward of the firewall, that I doubt whether it would make any significant difference to be "off" by a washer or two at the front bushing.



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# - 01/17/ PMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: kubihibi]  
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Hi Kubi,

No, not trying to be negative! The thickness being posed in the form of a question was not implied sarcasm, but truly represented an indistinct recollection on my part.

Actually, the implication for Cwest is a positive one, in that he needn't stress over this matter excessively.

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# - 01/18/ AMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: MAP]  
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Thanks for everyone's input. I have put an even number on both sides for now. I figure I will leave it like that until the engine is in and the hood is back on. At that time, I will shim the body panels as required to keep straight body lines.

Chris


# - 01/18/ PMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: cwest01]  
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Hi Cwest,

I don't think that shimming the front bushing will have much impact on maintaining body-panel straightness from fenders through doors, for two reasons: 1.) the fender alignment is primarily set at its two attachment points with the vertical body member at the firewall, and 2.) the frame is much floppier than the fender in this sense, so shimming will primarily deflect the frame and the remaining bushings that couple the body to the frame.

I think my approach about this would be to measure the vertical gap between the radiator support and frame with the car in its finished and normal load condition, parked on a very flat, horizontal surface, and with no front bushing present. I would then shim the front bushing stack so that its installed height would conserve this dimension.

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MAP


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# - 01/20/ PMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: MAP]  
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when i took what was left of mine before removing the whole rad suport i had 3 washers on right side in realy bad shape being 20 years old they were toast!


# - 01/23/ PMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: irkk1]  
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I put solid UHMW bushings in mine and I made both bushings exactly the same dimension. With the car sitting on the ground the distance between the core support and the frame was a bit different side to side without the bushings in place. However, I did not end up shimming the bushings at all, I just put them in and cranked the bolts down. With very little effort the core support pulled down evenly on both sides and the fender gaps at the doors did not change. I did have to adjust the hood a little since my bushing design has nubs machined in that locate the core support to the holes in the frame thus perfectley centering the core support, but otherwise in my experience theres enough give in the nose of these cars that a couple shims really shouldn't matter too much.


# - 01/23/ PMRe: Radiator Support Bushing Mistake [Re: Chevyguy]  
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Hi ,

Good show - I take it you know about my predilection for such bushings. Just watch out for stress cracks at the tops of the A-pillars. Regarding alignment issues, your description is exactly what I would have expected.

Thanks,
MAP


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Hi MAP,

I believe I got the idea to make the solid bushings from yourself and did read numerous posts of yours regarding them. I will definatley keep an eye on the A-pillars, I'm hoping I don't run into much of an issue but only time will tell. They do make the car feel like it turns in better and overall make it feel much more solid. Thanks.


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They're not tough to make the problem is I no longer have easy access to a lathe. I had a buddy that used to live near me with a huge shop and he'd let me use his machine tools, but he moved and took the tools with him. I need a lathe to turn the "nubs" on the ends that locate the bushing in the frame and core support, the rest of its pretty easy. Just have to cut the stock to size and drill a hole in it.



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